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Re: Preventivna

#16 Příspěvek od vyosek »

:arrow: Ono ale vsechny ty servery co mate zablokovane neslouzi k aktualizaci, ale k overovani pravosti

:arrow: Spustte znovu OTL
  • Pokud pouzivate Win Vista ci W7, kliknete na OTL pravym a dejte Run As Administrator ci Spustit jako spravce
  • Do spodniho okenka Vlastni skenovani/opravy vlozte skript nize
  • Kód: Vybrat vše

    :otl
    IE - HKLM\..\URLSearchHook: - No CLSID value found
    IE - HKLM\..\URLSearchHook: {855F3B16-6D32-4fe6-8A56-BBB695989046} - No CLSID value found
    IE - HKU\.DEFAULT\..\URLSearchHook: - No CLSID value found
    IE - HKU\.DEFAULT\..\URLSearchHook: {855F3B16-6D32-4fe6-8A56-BBB695989046} - No CLSID value found
    IE - HKU\S-1-5-18\..\URLSearchHook: - No CLSID value found
    IE - HKU\S-1-5-18\..\URLSearchHook: {855F3B16-6D32-4fe6-8A56-BBB695989046} - No CLSID value found
    IE - HKU\S-1-5-21-2791954077-2039642415-460783259-1000\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Start Page = http://start.icq.com/skins/
    IE - HKU\S-1-5-21-2791954077-2039642415-460783259-1000\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Start Page Redirect Cache_TIMESTAMP = 94 3A 74 E1 17 71 CA 01 [binary data]
    IE - HKU\S-1-5-21-2791954077-2039642415-460783259-1000\..\URLSearchHook: - No CLSID value found
    FF - prefs.js..browser.search.defaultenginename: "ICQ Search"
    FF - prefs.js..browser.search.suggest.enabled: false
    FF - prefs.js..browser.search.useDBForOrder: true
    FF - prefs.js..browser.startup.homepage: "http://localhost/"
    FF - prefs.js..keyword.URL: "http://www.google.com/search?q="
    FF - HKLM\Software\MozillaPlugins\@Apple.com/iTunes,version=: File not found
    FF - HKLM\Software\MozillaPlugins\@real.com/nsJSRealPlayerPlugin;version=: File not found
    O4 - HKU\S-1-5-21-2791954077-2039642415-460783259-1000..\Run: [AdobeBridge] File not found
    O4 - HKU\S-1-5-21-2791954077-2039642415-460783259-1000..\Run: [LG LinkAir] File not found
    O4 - HKU\S-1-5-21-2791954077-2039642415-460783259-1000..\Run: [OEXPRESS] File not found
    O20 - HKLM Winlogon: VMApplet - (/pagefile) - File not found
    O28 - HKLM ShellExecuteHooks: {AEB6717E-7E19-11d0-97EE-00C04FD91972} - No CLSID value found.
    O33 - MountPoints2\{29638425-1019-11e1-9cbc-002186bc941e}\Shell - "" = AutoRun
    O33 - MountPoints2\{652ca453-6d92-11e0-ae48-002186bc941e}\Shell - "" = AutoRun
    O33 - MountPoints2\G\Shell - "" = AutoRun
    [2012/02/27 17:30:52 | 000,000,292 | ---- | M] () -- C:\Windows\Tasks\AutoKMS.job
    [2 C:\Windows\assembly\NativeImages_v2.0.50727_32\Temp\*.tmp files -> C:\Windows\assembly\NativeImages_v2.0.50727_32\Temp\*.tmp -> ]
    [12 C:\Windows\Installer\*.tmp files -> C:\Windows\Installer\*.tmp -> ]
    [1 C:\Windows\Installer\{FD8E178D-8B4E-42DA-B434-EFF270329B1C}\*.tmp files -> C:\Windows\Installer\{FD8E178D-8B4E-42DA-B434-EFF270329B1C}\*.tmp -> ]
    [2 C:\Windows\SoftwareDistribution\AuthCabs\7971f918-a847-4430-9279-4a52d1efe18d\*.tmp files -> C:\Windows\SoftwareDistribution\AuthCabs\7971f918-a847-4430-9279-4a52d1efe18d\*.tmp -> ]
    [5 C:\Windows\Temp\*.tmp files -> C:\Windows\Temp\*.tmp -> ]
    [1 C:\Windows\twain_32\*.tmp files -> C:\Windows\twain_32\*.tmp -> ]
    [2012/02/27 17:29:42 | 000,000,914 | ---- | M] () -- C:\Windows\Tasks\GoogleUpdateTaskMachineCore.job
    [2012/02/27 21:51:00 | 000,000,918 | ---- | M] () -- C:\Windows\Tasks\GoogleUpdateTaskMachineUA.job
    [2012/02/26 16:51:01 | 000,000,886 | ---- | M] () -- C:\Windows\Tasks\GoogleUpdateTaskUserS-1-5-21-2791954077-2039642415-460783259-1000Core.job
    [2012/02/27 21:51:00 | 000,000,938 | ---- | M] () -- C:\Windows\Tasks\GoogleUpdateTaskUserS-1-5-21-2791954077-2039642415-460783259-1000UA.job
    @Alternate Data Stream - 200 bytes -> C:\ProgramData\TEMP:1CE11B51
    @Alternate Data Stream - 12 bytes -> C:\Windows\System32:{4B9A1497-0817-47C4-9612-D6A1C53ACF57}
    @Alternate Data Stream - 117 bytes -> C:\ProgramData\TEMP:C8B8CEBD
    
    :services
    gupdate
    gupdatem
    
    :reg
    [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run]
    "SunJavaUpdateSched"=-
    "Adobe ARM"=-
    [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run]
    "DAEMON Tools Lite"=-
    [-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\software\microsoft\shared tools\msconfig\startupreg\Acrobat Assistant 8.0]
    [-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\software\microsoft\shared tools\msconfig\startupreg\Adobe Acrobat Speed Launcher]
    [-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\software\microsoft\shared tools\msconfig\startupreg\AdobeAAMUpdater-1.0]
    [-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\software\microsoft\shared tools\msconfig\startupreg\AdobeCS5ServiceManager]
    [-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\software\microsoft\shared tools\msconfig\startupreg\AlcoholAutomount]
    [-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\software\microsoft\shared tools\msconfig\startupreg\CloneCDTray]
    [-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\software\microsoft\shared tools\msconfig\startupreg\Google Update]
    [-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\software\microsoft\shared tools\msconfig\startupreg\HP Software Update]
    [-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\software\microsoft\shared tools\msconfig\startupreg\hpqSRMon]
    [-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\software\microsoft\shared tools\msconfig\startupreg\ICQ]
    [-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\software\microsoft\shared tools\msconfig\startupreg\iTunesHelper]
    [-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\software\microsoft\shared tools\msconfig\startupreg\OrderReminder]
    [-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\software\microsoft\shared tools\msconfig\startupreg\QuickTime Task]
    [-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\software\microsoft\shared tools\msconfig\startupreg\SwitchBoard]
    
    :files
    %windir%\system32\*.tmp.dll /s
    %windir%\system32\SET*.tmp /s
    %windir%\*.tmp
    
    :commands
    [RESETHOSTS]
    [EMPTYTEMP]
    [EMPTYFLASH]
  • Nasledne kliknete na Opravit
  • PC provede opravu, restartuje se a da Vam log, jeho obsah vlozte sem
"Kdo víno má a nepije,kdo hrozny má a nejí je, kdo ženu má a nelíbá, kdo zábavě se vyhýbá, na toho vemte bič a hůl, to není člověk, to je vůl."
Člen Obrázek od 1. února 2011.

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Re: Preventivna

#17 Příspěvek od owen26 »

All processes killed
========== OTL ==========
Registry value HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\URLSearchHooks\\ deleted successfully.
Registry value HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\URLSearchHooks\\{855F3B16-6D32-4fe6-8A56-BBB695989046} deleted successfully.
Registry key HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Classes\CLSID\{855F3B16-6D32-4fe6-8A56-BBB695989046}\ not found.
Registry value HKEY_USERS\.DEFAULT\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\URLSearchHooks\\ deleted successfully.
Registry value HKEY_USERS\.DEFAULT\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\URLSearchHooks\\{855F3B16-6D32-4fe6-8A56-BBB695989046} deleted successfully.
Registry key HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Classes\CLSID\{855F3B16-6D32-4fe6-8A56-BBB695989046}\ not found.
Registry value HKEY_USERS\S-1-5-18\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\URLSearchHooks\\ not found.
Registry value HKEY_USERS\S-1-5-18\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\URLSearchHooks\\{855F3B16-6D32-4fe6-8A56-BBB695989046} not found.
Registry key HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Classes\CLSID\{855F3B16-6D32-4fe6-8A56-BBB695989046}\ not found.
HKU\S-1-5-21-2791954077-2039642415-460783259-1000\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main\\Start Page| /E : value set successfully!
HKU\S-1-5-21-2791954077-2039642415-460783259-1000\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main\\Start Page Redirect Cache_TIMESTAMP| /E : value set successfully!
Registry value HKEY_USERS\S-1-5-21-2791954077-2039642415-460783259-1000\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\URLSearchHooks\\ deleted successfully.
Prefs.js: "ICQ Search" removed from browser.search.defaultenginename
Prefs.js: false removed from browser.search.suggest.enabled
Prefs.js: true removed from browser.search.useDBForOrder
Prefs.js: "http://localhost/" removed from browser.startup.homepage
Prefs.js: "http://www.google.com/search?q=" removed from keyword.URL
Registry key HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\MozillaPlugins\@Apple.com/iTunes,version=\ deleted successfully.
Registry key HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\MozillaPlugins\@real.com/nsJSRealPlayerPlugin;version=\ deleted successfully.
Registry value HKEY_USERS\S-1-5-21-2791954077-2039642415-460783259-1000\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run\\AdobeBridge deleted successfully.
Registry value HKEY_USERS\S-1-5-21-2791954077-2039642415-460783259-1000\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run\\LG LinkAir deleted successfully.
Registry value HKEY_USERS\S-1-5-21-2791954077-2039642415-460783259-1000\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run\\OEXPRESS deleted successfully.
Registry value HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Winlogon\\VMApplet:/pagefile deleted successfully.
Registry value HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\ShellExecuteHooks\\{AEB6717E-7E19-11d0-97EE-00C04FD91972} deleted successfully.
Registry key HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Classes\CLSID\{AEB6717E-7E19-11d0-97EE-00C04FD91972}\ not found.
Registry key HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\MountPoints2\{29638425-1019-11e1-9cbc-002186bc941e}\ deleted successfully.
Registry key HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Classes\CLSID\{29638425-1019-11e1-9cbc-002186bc941e}\ not found.
Registry key HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\MountPoints2\{652ca453-6d92-11e0-ae48-002186bc941e}\ deleted successfully.
Registry key HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Classes\CLSID\{652ca453-6d92-11e0-ae48-002186bc941e}\ not found.
Registry key HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\MountPoints2\G\ deleted successfully.
C:\Windows\Tasks\AutoKMS.job moved successfully.
C:\Windows\assembly\NativeImages_v2.0.50727_32\Temp\ZAP5E64.tmp folder deleted successfully.
C:\Windows\assembly\NativeImages_v2.0.50727_32\Temp\ZAP8545.tmp folder deleted successfully.
C:\Windows\Installer\MSI17B.tmp deleted successfully.
C:\Windows\Installer\MSI247.tmp deleted successfully.
C:\Windows\Installer\MSI3B14.tmp deleted successfully.
C:\Windows\Installer\MSI3BEF.tmp deleted successfully.
C:\Windows\Installer\MSI3DD.tmp deleted successfully.
C:\Windows\Installer\MSI3DD4.tmp deleted successfully.
C:\Windows\Installer\MSI5FF.tmp deleted successfully.
C:\Windows\Installer\MSI870E.tmp deleted successfully.
C:\Windows\Installer\MSI9011.tmp deleted successfully.
C:\Windows\Installer\MSI98E8.tmp deleted successfully.
C:\Windows\Installer\MSIA2F9.tmp deleted successfully.
C:\Windows\Installer\MSIAC07.tmp deleted successfully.
C:\Windows\Installer\{FD8E178D-8B4E-42DA-B434-EFF270329B1C}\upd80.tmp deleted successfully.
C:\Windows\SoftwareDistribution\AuthCabs\7971f918-a847-4430-9279-4a52d1efe18d\wlt22E6.tmp deleted successfully.
C:\Windows\SoftwareDistribution\AuthCabs\7971f918-a847-4430-9279-4a52d1efe18d\wltCC7.tmp deleted successfully.
C:\Windows\Temp\ibB21F.tmp deleted successfully.
C:\Windows\Temp\ibB220.tmp deleted successfully.
C:\Windows\Temp\ibB24F.tmp deleted successfully.
C:\Windows\Temp\ibB29E.tmp deleted successfully.
C:\Windows\Temp\ibB609.tmp deleted successfully.
C:\Windows\twain_32\hpqgnds2.tmp deleted successfully.
C:\Windows\Tasks\GoogleUpdateTaskMachineCore.job moved successfully.
C:\Windows\Tasks\GoogleUpdateTaskMachineUA.job moved successfully.
C:\Windows\Tasks\GoogleUpdateTaskUserS-1-5-21-2791954077-2039642415-460783259-1000Core.job moved successfully.
C:\Windows\Tasks\GoogleUpdateTaskUserS-1-5-21-2791954077-2039642415-460783259-1000UA.job moved successfully.
ADS C:\ProgramData\TEMP:1CE11B51 deleted successfully.
ADS C:\Windows\System32:{4B9A1497-0817-47C4-9612-D6A1C53ACF57} deleted successfully.
ADS C:\ProgramData\TEMP:C8B8CEBD deleted successfully.
========== SERVICES/DRIVERS ==========
Service gupdate stopped successfully!
Service gupdate deleted successfully!
Service gupdatem stopped successfully!
Service gupdatem deleted successfully!
========== REGISTRY ==========
Registry value HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run\\SunJavaUpdateSched deleted successfully.
Registry value HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run\\Adobe ARM deleted successfully.
Registry value HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run\\DAEMON Tools Lite deleted successfully.
Registry key HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\software\microsoft\shared tools\msconfig\startupreg\Acrobat Assistant 8.0\ deleted successfully.
Registry key HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\software\microsoft\shared tools\msconfig\startupreg\Adobe Acrobat Speed Launcher\ deleted successfully.
Registry key HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\software\microsoft\shared tools\msconfig\startupreg\AdobeAAMUpdater-1.0\ deleted successfully.
Registry key HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\software\microsoft\shared tools\msconfig\startupreg\AdobeCS5ServiceManager\ deleted successfully.
Registry key HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\software\microsoft\shared tools\msconfig\startupreg\AlcoholAutomount\ deleted successfully.
Registry key HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\software\microsoft\shared tools\msconfig\startupreg\CloneCDTray\ deleted successfully.
Registry key HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\software\microsoft\shared tools\msconfig\startupreg\Google Update\ deleted successfully.
Registry key HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\software\microsoft\shared tools\msconfig\startupreg\HP Software Update\ deleted successfully.
Registry key HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\software\microsoft\shared tools\msconfig\startupreg\hpqSRMon\ deleted successfully.
Registry key HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\software\microsoft\shared tools\msconfig\startupreg\ICQ\ deleted successfully.
Registry key HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\software\microsoft\shared tools\msconfig\startupreg\iTunesHelper\ deleted successfully.
Registry key HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\software\microsoft\shared tools\msconfig\startupreg\OrderReminder\ deleted successfully.
Registry key HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\software\microsoft\shared tools\msconfig\startupreg\QuickTime Task\ deleted successfully.
Registry key HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\software\microsoft\shared tools\msconfig\startupreg\SwitchBoard\ deleted successfully.
========== FILES ==========
File/Folder C:\Windows\system32\*.tmp.dll not found.
File/Folder C:\Windows\system32\SET*.tmp not found.
File/Folder C:\Windows\*.tmp not found.
========== COMMANDS ==========
C:\Windows\System32\drivers\etc\Hosts moved successfully.
HOSTS file reset successfully

[EMPTYTEMP]

User: Ali
->Temp folder emptied: 9066787 bytes
->Temporary Internet Files folder emptied: 5132505 bytes
->Java cache emptied: 21494371 bytes
->FireFox cache emptied: 83588200 bytes
->Google Chrome cache emptied: 249953301 bytes
->Apple Safari cache emptied: 11005952 bytes
->Opera cache emptied: 0 bytes
->Flash cache emptied: 1971404 bytes

User: All Users

User: Default
->Temp folder emptied: 0 bytes
->Temporary Internet Files folder emptied: 0 bytes
->Flash cache emptied: 41620 bytes

User: Default User
->Temp folder emptied: 0 bytes
->Temporary Internet Files folder emptied: 0 bytes
->Flash cache emptied: 0 bytes

User: Public
->Temp folder emptied: 0 bytes

%systemdrive% .tmp files removed: 0 bytes
%systemroot% .tmp files removed: 0 bytes
%systemroot%\System32 .tmp files removed: 0 bytes
%systemroot%\System32\drivers .tmp files removed: 0 bytes
Windows Temp folder emptied: 49851 bytes
RecycleBin emptied: 0 bytes

Total Files Cleaned = 365,00 mb


[EMPTYFLASH]

User: Ali
->Flash cache emptied: 0 bytes

User: All Users

User: Default
->Flash cache emptied: 0 bytes

User: Default User
->Flash cache emptied: 0 bytes

User: Public

Total Flash Files Cleaned = 0,00 mb


OTL by OldTimer - Version 3.2.33.2 log created on 02282012_113736

Files\Folders moved on Reboot...

Registry entries deleted on Reboot...


Na ploche sa mi vytvorili dva súbory desktop.ini po reštarovaní cez OTL.

blokované adresy som zohnal cez nemenovaný web, myslel som, že to bráni iba aktualizáciám...

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Re: Preventivna

#18 Příspěvek od vyosek »

S aktualizacemi nemaji nic spolecneho...

OTL provedlo co melo, nejaky problem s PC :???:
"Kdo víno má a nepije,kdo hrozny má a nejí je, kdo ženu má a nelíbá, kdo zábavě se vyhýbá, na toho vemte bič a hůl, to není člověk, to je vůl."
Člen Obrázek od 1. února 2011.

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Re: Preventivna

#19 Příspěvek od owen26 »

žiadny problém, akurát mi vytvorilo na ploche dva skryté súbory deskop.ini
ich obsah:

deskop.ini
[.ShellClassInfo]
LocalizedResourceName=@%SystemRoot%\system32\shell32.dll,-21799

deskop.ini
[.ShellClassInfo]
LocalizedResourceName=@%SystemRoot%\system32\shell32.dll,-21769
IconResource=%SystemRoot%\system32\imageres.dll,-183

čo s tým ?

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Re: Preventivna

#20 Příspěvek od vyosek »

:arrow: OTC http://oldtimer.geekstogo.com/OTC.exe
  • Stahnete a spustte
  • Kliknete na CleanUp a potvrdte YES
  • Program uklidi a restartuje PC

:arrow: TFC http://oldtimer.geekstogo.com/TFC.exe
  • Stahnete a spustte
  • Kliknete na Start a potvrdte OK
  • Program uklidi a restartuje pc
  • Po pouziti utilitu smazte
:arrow: Stahnete Ccleaner http://forum.viry.cz/viewtopic.php?t=7478
Panel čistič
  • Vse nechte jak je, jen dejte Analyzovat a pote Spustit CCleaner
Panel registry
  • dejte Hledej problémy
  • nasledne Opravit problémy - zalohu registru doporucuji udelat, opravte vsechny problemy
  • postup opakujte dokud nebude bez problemu - vetsinou cca 3x
Panel nástroje
  • Zde muzete odinstalovat nepotrebne programy
CCleaner doporucuji pouzivat cca jednou za tyden

:arrow: Start - Ovladaci panely - Moznosti slozky - karza Zobrazeni - Nezobrazovat skryte soubory, slozky nebo jednotky

:arrow: A melo by to byt vse :|
"Kdo víno má a nepije,kdo hrozny má a nejí je, kdo ženu má a nelíbá, kdo zábavě se vyhýbá, na toho vemte bič a hůl, to není člověk, to je vůl."
Člen Obrázek od 1. února 2011.

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Re: Preventivna

#21 Příspěvek od owen26 »

Nechcel som to vyriešiť skrytím priečinkov a súborov, ale ak ináč nedáte :)
Vďaka! :idea:

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Re: Preventivna

#22 Příspěvek od vyosek »

Neni zac, rado se stalo :)
"Kdo víno má a nepije,kdo hrozny má a nejí je, kdo ženu má a nelíbá, kdo zábavě se vyhýbá, na toho vemte bič a hůl, to není člověk, to je vůl."
Člen Obrázek od 1. února 2011.

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